Trump’s Final White House Days
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Garrett Ziegler a former mid-level staffer at the White House in the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy for Peter Navarro was interviewed on Monkey Werx. In a number of stunning revelations Ziegler discussed in detail the final days of the Trump administration and the events around the coup d’état that led to President Trump abandoning the Presidency.
Never Trumper’s
Ziegler paints a White House riddled with career staffers and never Trumper’s who worked around the clock to undermine the President. Because so many of the staffers were vested in their White House careers there was no loyalty to President Trump. This meant there were orders not followed (or slow walked) at the direction of the President that left his decisions meaningless.
Et tu Brute
Even people close to the President such as Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and House Representative (R Ohio) Jim Jordan were painted as disloyal to the President while projecting themselves to the public as his supporters.
“An Ugly baby”
“This is an ugly baby right so to speak and truly in every respect we had never been in this situation in American history. I think there have been three presidential elections stolen in which from my favorite president Andrew Jackson then in 1876 and in the 1960 especially with the Chicago machine. But the level of fraud and the planning and execution of this one was truly unprecedented ergo a lot of patriots I would argue more than 50 million of them myself included were arguing that we need unprecedented action to deal with this unprecedented criminality”.
Sleep Easy
“We can sleep easy at night knowing that we did absolutely everything we could i did for my humble perch as a mid-level staffer did absolutely everything I could to try to advocate for what I believed were the justifiable and commensurate actions that the president should have taken”.
Actively Fighting the Coup
“Me and to a greater extent my boss were actively fighting the coup. These are stories that are not out there right now that have to get told because they bring an angle to this that explains you know why didn’t we get the birthright citizenship order that we were promised why do we still have tens of millions of illegals in the country and that’s partly because of staffing so people basically were slow rolling you and uh and not getting the job done”.
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Monkey Business Special w Garrett Ziegler 02.06.21
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little spec op smoky here i have theprivilege ofinterviewing today a new buddy of mineuh garrett zieglerand uh garrett is uh got a veryinteresting background he was part ofthe trump team and thewhite house and uh he’s got a story totell and so uh with thatwelcome garrett i think people are gonnareally wanna hear what you have to saythank you sir it’s a pleasure to uh tomeet you over the screeni uh for all of you your viewers ireached out to you i think it wasearly december and quite honestly i wasintrigued with your your program i’vealways been an aviation enthusiastand so i can’t i i’ve told about a dozenpeople my life about i find itabsolutely fascinating and you know thefaais one of those government agencies thatisextremely important not very sexy buti think that you know once you startdigging around therethat’s another one of those agenciesthat’s completely captured and i don’tthink we did a very good job ofpaying attention to it but that’sprobably uhfor a later time in this interview sothanks for having me on yeah noabsolutely soyeah you reached out to me and i i’ll behonest with you at first i was a littlespooked because i was like oh no man i’mon white house radar i need tohave to figure what did i do wrong manyou know umand then then we started talking i waslike this is a good dude manlike wow you know this is uhwell i gotta find friends wherever theyare i you know i try to look out fori try to reach out to other otherchristians that have my political viewsand quite honestlyuh that wasn’t always the case in thewhite house i mean there’s some greatpeople there but i meanthe i didn’t really connect with a lotof themcame from a different background i’mfrom a small village in the in illinoisand so uh didn’t really have a lot incommon with some of the new york crowdmy point being that once i saw yourshow and a buddy mentioned it to me andso i was like oh i want to meet himand i love your your craftsmanship bythe way it’s all sold out though i’vebeen trying to buy some stuffhey you just tell me what you needbrother i’ll get it to you man i ii cannot keep it on the shelf it isinsane the amount i can tellyeah it’s it’s crazy and the thing isi’ve got to figure out a betterbetter uh a better way to uhto manufacture product and i mean i doit all myself and and uhget stuff from israel and and uh youknowbut my beard bombs i do myself my soapsi do myself and souh it’s kind of a double-edged swordbecause i can make it but i can’t makeenough of it tokeep it in stock and it just uh you knowyou put out small quantities and it justgoes out pretty good problem to haveit is certainly i am blessed and i’mdefinitely not complaining soum yeah but uh so so let’s uhlet’s tell uh folks a little bit aboutyou and your background i thinkuh you know just kind of explain to themuh how you gotinto where you were and my my story isfairly simple icome from central illinois and i uhdid like most college students who wereinterested in politics i did mysummer internship with my owncongressman uh john shrimkus who’s nowretiredand through that i had met this is in in2016 so after the president won igot together with another illinoisianand i got an internship there andthrough that internshipi i found that people in my life don’treally have a lukewarmopinion about me they either uh you knowfind me a little bit too strong ofof coffee or you know they really loveme and sothrough that internship i met somepeople and then got a job after igraduated collegeand so i am the young person in the roomi i’ll start off with that and i thinkthatuh it is uma little bit weird that throughout thecoup and i will call it a coupalthough it’s a post-modern coupthroughout the coup i wouldi would meet with certain people who hadevidence citizens who could obviouslytell this was an embarrassment to thecountry we had people you knowputting up pizza boxes on windows theywould be sort of surprised that i wouldbe working there and itold you before we before we started theinterview that i sort of keep my keep mybearduh grown out to uh to hide my age alittle bit but the fact of the matter isis that i was there for almost two yearsand uh you could say i kept my head downand took a lot of notes and soi have a viewpoint that isvery unique i have no motivation towrite sometell-all book no monetary interestwhatsoeverand so i’m very happy that you’re havingme on the show today because i hope todo about a half a dozen of theseon people’s programs that i respect totry to get the truth out there and thetruthis a little bit unbelievable and i thinkthat’s why this interview willhopefully peak everybody’s interest thatwatches your show but probablydisappoint a fair number of themso i know you don’t believe in triggerwarnings sir asas i don’t but there’s mine yeahno that’s okay i one one of the thingsthat i try to do justas a christian in my daily walk is is tojust tell the truth you know people uhyou knowpeople need to hear the truth and that’si think kind of a sadsituation that we’re in in terms of ourthe political environments than thatwe we’re we’re we’re all caught up weseem to be caught up on disinformationbecause it’s pleasing to the earright and so somebody comes out and sayssomething thatsounds you know great and uh and we alljust kind of attract to that umand so and i think what this will do isactually give people an opportunity toyou know see that you know we’re gonnashine some light on some dark areastodayand and um and show that you know thisthis is an ugly baby right so to speakand truly in every respect we had neverbeen in this situation in americanhistory i think there have beenthree presidential elections stolen in1824which from my favorite president andrewjackson then in 1876 and in the 1960especially with the chicago machine butthe level of fraudand the planning and execution of thisone was truly unprecedentedergo a lot of patriots i would arguemore than 50 million of themuh myself included were arguing that weneedunprecedented action to deal with thisunprecedented criminalitywe can sleep easy at night knowing thatwe did absolutely everything wecould i did for my humble perch as amid-level staffer did absolutelyeverything i couldto try to advocate for what i believedwere thejustifiable and commensurate actionsthat the president should have taken anduhyou know usually in life you don’t doeverything you can you know after abasketball gamelike leave it out there on the course iwas a basketball player in high schoolandsometimes i couldn’t answer thathonestly but i think that everybody youeven everybody everybody on the outsideeverybody on the insidea lot of us can say that we dideverything we could it’s a small numberthoughyeah uh yeah without a doubt so so let’sback up a little bit uh you mentionedbeing a mid-level staffer at the whitehouse can youtell us what was your role you know whatdid you dofor for the trump admin yeah so i workedin a very small officecalled the office of trade andmanufacturing policy that officewas basically created for a gentlemannamed peter navarro and like thenational economic council which wasestablished by executive order in 1993by clinton the office wasmeant to fulfill campaign promises to doeverything we canto onshore manufacturing jobs todecrease the trade deficit tolabel china a currency manipulator tobringto fruition all the things that thepresident had promised on the campaignwith regard to ourdefense industrial base and so we onlyhad about five people in our officeit was led by peter navarro and we werein the white house office uh that’s athat’s a designation you know there’sthe office of management budget nationalsecurity council office of uhnational drug control policy there’s atremendous amountof bureaucracy even within the whitehouse complexand i think your viewers would find itvery interesting that a material numberof white house staff are actuallycareers they’re not even politicalappointeeswhich what does that mean i mean you canjust look at the fvc contributionrecords andmost of the people who are careeremployees uh have a vested interestin the growing of the administrative anddeep states and they vote accordinglyso we’re trying to implement policy atthe office of management budget forexampleand you have people that uh secretlyhate youand sometimes not even so secretly sothat’s where i workedi didn’t make a lot of money at all uhbutyou know that’s not what it’s for but iwill saythat there are a lot of other people inthe white house who probably worked ashalf as hardas our office truly like had basicallyafter the president quote unquote loston november 3rdthey were already looking for other jobsthere were dozens of people that wereliterally taking interviewsin the eisenhower executive officebuilding while meand to a greater extent my boss wereactively fighting the coupthese are stories that are not out thereright now that have to get toldyeah because they bring an angle to thisthat explainsyou know why didn’t we get thebirthright citizenship order that wewere promisedwhy do we still have tens of millions ofillegals in the countryand that’s partly because of staffing sopeople basically wereslow rolling you and uh and not gettingthe job done i kind of noticed that withbillboardand i’d love to talk about everybody bythe way i have noi’m not going to go back to washingtoni’m moving my my wife and kid back toruralamerica i have no i’m not going tobecome a lobbyistso what i’m trying to say is otherpeople are in this weird chinese fingertrap situation wherethey want to tell the truth but theyalso don’t want to piss off people thatthey could that could be their employeryeah and uh so i just want to make thatknown that pretty much everybody’s onthe tableokay feel free to ask anything yeah noabsolutely absolutely soso let’s let’s get to the meat of it andumbecause i i i ventured over totelegram and i was looking at some ofyour posts on there and i was watchinghow one of the guys was driving arolls-royce into the office every dayand uh some of the otherantiques that were happening thatattorney or something that’s it aloneyeah the white house counselyeah um so what so let’s let’s kind oftalk about what happened you and i wereyou knowgoing back and forth at you knowmidnight one o’clock in the morningmost of the time uh you know talkingaboutthe environment and some of the thingsand and i you know i had asked you atone point i was likei felt like oh we got this thing in thebag you know and everybody was you knowtrust the plan and all the other thingsthat were going on with it andcandidly i just said hey you know what’sour percent you know what’s our chancelike do we have this in the bag and youwere like yeahand i waited and when you said 65 and myheartjust went right into my stomach becausei thought that’s notthat’s not not you know locked in manyou know this this could go southquickly so i was like do iyou know do i need to buy more ammo orwe got this thingyou know locked in i think was myquestion to you and you were you werelike yeah both by ammo but uh you knowthe same time weyeah we got 65 chance and i was like wowand i i think ii think at the start of it at the startof the post-modern coupi was in arizona for a week after theafter theuh the election if that’s what you wantto call ituh and i think my percentage was at 80thenbecause you could see if you takeif you take the bias out of your mindand set it here on the couchand look at the six be it you know inmilwaukee i mean everybody knows thestates by now but i’ll go through themonce at the startnevada arizona georgia pennsylvaniawisconsin and michigan if you look atthe six metropolitan counties in thosestatesthere are so many sins from poll watcherabusesto absentee ballot uh chain of custodyissuesthat i thought there’s an 80 percentchancethat the the branches of our governmentcome together to make surethat the rightful winner is in office onjanuary 20thyeah and then over time sir it justdropped and i think i had mentioned thatto you probably the last week ofdecemberand i want to give some context to that65 percent numberbecause all i did throughout the wholething was try to tell the truth therein the white house it is not just uhas simple in the trump administration ashaving a great idea and having the dataand then getting it to the presidentthere were so many barriersand layers erected around himthat it was a mission just to get thetruth to himand basically get him toremember you know this is what we ran onand i think for the people at home wehad a trulyoutsider president with a trulyestablishment staffnow i’m about the antithesis ofestablishment but the overall gist the80 20 rulewhere bush people who basically don’tcare about manufacturing jobs and whocare about being liked by the left imeanand what does that mean what does thattranslate to to to your questiondirectlythat means if you scream at the top ofyour lungs that under42 usc 1974 and several other statutesthe paper ballots the actual things thateverybody wrote downthose have to be preserved for 22 monthsall we should have done was literallytakethose six counties and hand count thembecause the auditing companies cnvthey’re bought off too the whole systemis likea non-violent mafia and at the atthe dawns are like the tech overlords insilicon valley and george sorosand zuckerberg and all these people sowhat i’m trying to say is when we didget the auditsaudits yeah that too was baked into thecake and we didn’t have live streamand so why it was 65 to get back to myoriginal point was thisthe truth is overwhelming on our sidehoweverthe world is a miserablesinful place and there are many peoplewho have financial and other interest inthe status quoand the status quo is the dispossessionof the united statesbasically the united states becomes onegiant 7-eleven we have no nationalculture anymore we don’thave a people anymore really i mean itjust turns into one giant shopping malland i’m being very blunt becausethat is what most american cities areyou don’t feel like you’re in the unitedstates of americaand so the corporate people that wereinside of the white house the people whowork at white shoe law firmsand all these things they areeither explicitly or implicitlysupporting that establishment systemand it was frustrating mister uhit doesn’t even frust frustration is notthe right wordit is exasperation that i experienceduh it was almost like watching a chess achess match right and so i iput a piece together about a uh thesicilian defense and it was how youbasicallyare are playing uh you’re playingoffensively defensively if that makessense right and so you’re allowing youropponent tobasically annihilate themselves throughyou know and so where they’re justthat’s what the chinese are doing to usyes exactly yeah um and so we did it wedid it to the soviet union in the coldwar right we just kept playing the gameandcreated all these these uh phantomprograms that they were they were outtrying to keep up withand uh they they basically spentthemselves into oblivion andyou can’t possibly uh assimilatethese numbers and that isa reality that some people will notacceptnow that is a very cold analysis of itwhat i believe to be the uhfuller truth if you want to use that ifi can use that language isthis is a strategy by the other sidethey know that the actual stock of thecountryblack white whatever does not want thisso to to basically deracinate the middleclass which i think is leftism’sultimate goalyou have a elite at the top and then yousubsidize the peasantry at the bottomthey need new people and that’s why theyare fightingtooth and nail against voter id againstuh you knowin georgia for example you can get avoter registration carduh you know with just a driver’s licensethere are three different federalstatutesthat say that you have to be a citizento vote there’s another friend of mineand i’ll send you the study so yourreaders cancan read it for themselves about 10 ofthe state of virginiais illegally registered to vote i’mactually still a resident of virginiauh and what does this mean that meansthat our elections areby definition illegally conducted and itold the president that directly onjanuary 18th i willtalk a little bit about thatconversation because that was surrealbecause mark meadows was there erichirschmanjared kushner was standing in the backthe elections in the statesthat changed the law without thelegislature’s consentso the secretary of state and all thesepeople moving deadlinesbecause of kovid that is illegal theelections were illegally conductedwhat does that do that basicallyuh is the occam’s razor’s approach thatyou don’t have to get into all theobvious electronicuh ballot you know the electronic votingfraud and in in inand vote observers or excuse me countingobservers being pushed outthe whole thing was illegal you know thethe actual constitution the thing thatwe’re all supposed to swear an oath tosays that the legislatures conduct thetime manner in place of elections thatdid not occurand what i think the the media andtheir organs of propaganda tried to dois they tried to make us forget thesimple thingsyeah we got we got myself included gotfritter away in the details they’rebribing native americans with gift cardsyou know all these pathetic things thatare embarrassing forour great republic yeah uh thethe thing is that the legislators didn’tvote on it and that’s a tragedythat the legislatures didn’t censuretheir own secretaries of state and yousaw the secretary of state ofpennsylvania just resignedit’s a curious curious development yeahwell at this point it’s water under thebridge right i mean you can’t get uh youcan’t get thisthis genie back in the bible right it’sit’sno and that’s why i i’m going on and onabout the staffing and i’m probablygoing to annoy some of your viewersbecausethat explains the the 80 20 rule isyou know 20 maybe it was disorganizationoryou know the president was inundatedwith stuff and didn’t focus on what heneeded to dobut 80 of it comes to who’s surroundinghim yeah andthe fact of the matter is is that theythethe establishment forces and what i meanby establishment is not justjohn boehner you think of you think ofofjohn boehner as the ultimateestablishment figure and he is now themarijuana lobbyist it’s basically what icallconservative incorporated conservativeincorporated is this band of likefreedom caucuspeople that all they do is hold hearingsnobody ever gets indicted we have nothe righteous indignation of the tens ofmillions of americans who seekhillary wiping servers nobody everactually goes to prison you saw that theperson in spygate got probationso that would include mark meadowssometimes even jim jordan i call themprofessionalhearing holders they do a great hearingand uh they complain yeah but they neverreally get anything done soso yeah let’s let’s pull the thread onthat a little bit the uhone of the things i think you and i weretalking it was you know one o’clock inthe morningum probably around the the first of theyear i think you had mentioned to meabout uhabout the the people that were advisingtrumpright and that you know mark meadowsbeing one and you knowi thought uh he’s a good dude jim jordangood dude i thought they were all gooddudes and thenall of a sudden you kind of opened myeyes and you’re like nothese guys are telling them to concedeand i i was like whatthis is you got to be kidding me and sowell it’s not just concede some of themwerei i can’t comment i’m not going tocomment on anything i did not personallyhearwhat i know to be absolutely trueis that they were basically giving himno options he would come upwith a a course of action and they’dgive himthree reasons why it couldn’t be done ohokay and all they were was no menso basically they were in effect tellinghim to concedebut they were basically just noteffectuating his orders and thishappened dozens of times the presidentwould tell sipolone or meadows to dosomething and they justwouldn’t do it yeah they would it’sunbelievablepeople people could not imagine how manytimeshe told him to do something the meetingended and then the person who was gonnaget affected by that action which thepresident directedwould then go to one of these people andsay you know the president told you todo thisand then they’re like well you know andthen they just drag it out they slowwalk ityeah it’s uh well they knew if if theyjust burned the clock down there’snothing that would happenright i mean just all of them have jobslined up yeah by the wayyeah oh for sure yeah because they’recareer politicians that’s one of thereasons why we gotta you gotta havecareer limitsor not career limits but uh term limitsright justget these people out i agree with thatbut cruzcruz talked about that a lot and i don’treally i’m not a big fan of himbut he has he has brought that uh ininto the politicalsort of overton window and that wasanother failure of our administration wedidn’t push thatwe went with the wrong order of thingswe i think the president thought hecould work with paul ryan paul ryan is asnakeeverybody knows that now and so instead of the tax bill which i i like in generalthat should have been priority number four maybe yeah we should have startedwithinfrastructure and immigration and i know these are all hindsight 2020 sirbut i’m trying to give them therighteous frustration of somebody who isactually in the buildingand seeing this slow slow train wreckand it’s not all at the president’s feehe needs to have people he can trustand a lot of people in my telegramcomments are asking you know why didn’the fire them i’m not sureyou know he dealt with new york citycouncilmanyeah he might have thought that this isjust how political this is how politicalpeople operate i mean they’reself-interestedyou know when he would make it when hewould start a new firm and he hiredexecutivesall those executives would share hisvision because that meant the companywould be more profitableright but in politics it’s the exactinverse of thatthat people just want positions fortheir own aggrandizement advancementin wealth and we ultimately in thisfirstterm did not nip that in the budwow yeah for sure um so solet me ask you just you know since youhad the interactions with with trumphimselfwhat was um what was his demeanor likediduh did he did you feel like he was hewasjust trying as hard as he could or doyou feel like he just kind of gave upandand uh you know i because it seemed tome like he wasjust overwhelmed and i think he realizedthatthese people were successful at theircoup you know they basicallyhe got outplayed by the politiciansright and soum that was the observation i don’tthink welli think that he definitely felt aloneyeah which was tragic because we wereallthere my boss my colleagues me uh oursmall group is what i’m alluding toyou know we we gave him multiple coursesof actionbut when something needed to be signedoff and you know from the lawyersyou know the lawyers are you knowthere’s always that joke what you knowwhat do you call a group of lawyers youknow driving over a cliffa good start uh right ithink that a lot of them are you knowthey care about self-preservation morethan anythingthey’re not willing to go to do what isabsolutely necessary to winyeah and without sinning i don’tadvocate ever committing a mortal sinbuti’ll basically my rule in politics is dodo whatever i need to dowithout sinning to win because that’swhat the left does although they are theactualpeople who sin without you know withoutthinking twice about it yeah and i thinkwhat happened sir is that the presidentwould get very energized about certaincourses of actionand he would basically wrongly getoutnumberedand and and basically cornered into notdoing anythingand there are a couple times when youknow hehe he would decide on what i would say abold course of actionlike count the paper ballots which iswhat these electronic voting companieshave talked aboutfor 15 years as their supposed fail safeif any of theirmachines get up you know infiltrated andcompromisedhe would say he’d want to do that andthen 12 hours latersomebody had talked to him and said youknow we can do it this wayand uhit’s it was frustrating i obviously lovethe mani think that he is a revolutionary and agooda revolutionary president but i thinkthat the staffing was atrociousyeah and i keep coming back to that anduh again i think thathow these how this played out in thecourts toorequired us to take different actionsall these all thesecourts failed us the institutionsgovernment failed us and theythey ruled it out on procedural groundsand i can say for a fact that thepresident didn’t give upbecause on the 18th he’s he’s wonderingand he’s asking these supposed whiteshoe high-flying lawyers siryou know what actions can i take all thecourts haveruled that they you know they i don’thave standing on procedural grounds i’mthe president of the united states whatdo you mean i don’t have standing it’smy electionuh that’s why i was arguing sovociferouslythat if that institution or that branchof government to use the founderslexicon fails youthen you have to take extraordinarymeasures just like lincoln did just likejackson didand all that would have required byextraordinary i don’t mean illegali mean something that is totally legalbut pretty unprecedentedwhich was actually hand count the paperballots yeah it sounds so simpleit’s like running an election for yourdaughter’s girl scouttroop yeah yeah it’s justa block and tackle stuff things that youthinkas a established country we would havethe processes in place to do thatand it seemed like it was just i don’tknow it just seemed like he got overrunby the people around him i noticed thatso many vectorsyeah well so that that was the otherthing too i even noticed that uhhis uh religious folks that wouldyou know he had a team of of people thatwere always around and praying and atleastyou know that was at least what itlooked like from the outside right andthen all of a sudden i see the peoplethat were closest to himdown in houston making comments you knowthese are pastorsof churches big churches that weremaking comments that were anti-trump youknow and i was like whoawait a second here you’ve been prayingfor this guyfor the last four years but because nowhe can no longer serve your purpose nowyou are going to become judasand take your your pieces of silver anduhthat to me just blew me away i meanyou know that’s when i started to kindof go oh umyou know this this is not looking asrosy asi thought you know with your 65you know comment was my first like whoayou know zinger and then i startedseeing that stuff take place and theni had heard that he met with one of hispastors his personal pastorlike in the 11 o’clock hour to talk tohim about something information that hehad received andi i still can’t find that anywhere i’vebeen trying to dig and find that butum but it was like at that point it waslike well whatwhat information could he have possiblygotten that where he needed to meet withhis pastor tooand and i wanna i want to uhjust point out really quickly a key waythat the president circumventedthe normal establishment liberalsoulless uh you know political uhpolitical system we have now which istalking directly to the peopleand so after the third after they pulledoff theyou know patrick byrne calls it the goontactics of puttingputting cardboard pizza boxes on windowsandnot knowing where the ballots are ingeorgia they’re justshredding ballots that’s totally illegaland i was tellingwhoever would listen to me in the whitehouse let’s just golook at the ballots we don’t have to doit have the national guard in georgia doit so let georgianscount george’s ballots i don’t want youknow i don’t want the optics if we evencare about optics anymore which i’vesort of given up on uh you know havegeorgia count their ownown ballots but i think that one key waythat he got blockedis that every single media conglomeratewas in on thisso you know they were de-platformingeverybody having theirjoe biden is the projected winner of theyou know the associated pressis just that it’s the associated presswhen do they get acall anything yeah so there was anabsolute just stampede anabsolute flood of propaganda and whatthat didis to all of the what i call you knowvery based or woke people on the rightthey knew what was going on they saw itthey’re like wow the epic times isbasically the onlybig outlet that is not submitting to thepropaganda but for the lukewarm peoplethe people that maybe like thepresident’s views on the economybut who weren’t really in his camp theyarethey still think that the institutionsof the united states are notcaptured they still think that theassociated pressis interested or even believes inabsolute truthwhich they’re not you know this alreadybut i’mof course but i’m saying that that wastheir goal their goal wasn’t to changeour minds their goal was to get 25 thatbabybasically 25 million trump voters thatweren’treally gun hoe and and make themthink that he became a dictator thatwasn’t stepping downthat wasn’t accepting the will of thepeople yeah wewe saw that and that was pretty sadactually that umyeah the angle that and that’s the keyto that what happened on the sixthyeah that’s why they’re they’re they’redoing a shame at peach patrol i meanimpeachmentis nothing more than making sure hecan’t run again and it’s ademoralization campaign i mean youyou know you have forgotten more aboutthe military than i know but one of mybuddies said after this you knowthe reason why saddam hussein rapes yourdaughter and doesn’t just kill herimmediately is because he wants tohumiliate youyeah and that’s what they’re doingthey’re not only it’s not enough for thepresident to be out of the oval officeon january 21stthey have to humiliate us yeah andthat’s what it’s aboutand they’re using that tactic of themedia saying that we’re a bunch ofviolent you know terrorists and the fblieis uh putting up on billboards you knowif you have anything about the sixwhen we know there is antifa we knowjade sackler was in the buildingwe know that john sullivan was in thebuilding uhit’s all just a big lie yeah yeah welland i think they’re using that liei actually think they may have other uhplansbeyond just the impeachment piece ithink they’re going to try to totallyagreeyeah they’re going to go after them fortreason and that could not end well youknow i mean if if they’re successfuland you get enough you know these theseare blood thirsty rightyou know what i’m saying yeah so no i doand one more thing about the six becausethis this figures prominently and i’mi know i’m talking a lot about the mediaand the basically how he just gotambushedthey want to nowuse statutes that were passed in the 911 erawhen i was just a little a little kidbut i i read a lotthey’re going to use the statutorydefinitions of like violent extremiststo then go after trump’s base so noweverybody who went to the sixth is apotential violent extremist whichopens us up to domestic spying even morethan what they did before and joe has noclue where he isi mean he’s he’s he’s a geriatric heyou know he has he’s early onsetdementia any honest physician wouldwould tell you that he’s no more than apuppet not just for the chinese which isobvious but firstfor john brennan who i think is the mostevil man in washington and susan riceso they’re going to start domesticspying on all the president supportersusing the lie that they perpetratedabout the six and it’s it’s absolutelyevilyeah yeah well and you know one thingthat ii can say over the last four years if ifyou watch themexecute the plan they’re they’re prettysuccessful at doing it you know i meanthey make a run at something and withthe media they controlthe narrative you know and so that’sthat’s kind of the challenge that ithink we’re up againstuh you know it does it doesn’t reallylook good sohere’s the next question i have for youbecause i as a as a guy that wasin there and watching this all go downthere isthis uh you know people are saying ohthe military is in charge right now uhi don’t believe that because i justdon’t i i think if the military was incharge you wouldn’t have joe bidensitting anywhere and in the white houseright sowhat do you what are your thoughts onthat well i think that uhthe fact that he chose chairman milliewas a mistakeyeah and although the sec deathobviously outranked chairman miller hehas a lot of swayand i thought that memo that he puttogether i think it was on the 16thwas just an abomination uh it washumiliating us basicallysaying that yeah that that uhthe members of the military who aregonna by the waybeing called out into freezingwashington and then put in a parkinggarageyou know we’re going to vet each andevery one of youbecause if you think that this you knowelection was illegitimate you mightliterally kill joe biden on hismotorcade route from the white housenow that’s not what the memo said butthat was the implicityou know we have an oath to theconstitutionand apparently they forgot the part ofthe constitution where the legislaturesdirect the manner of electionsyeah uh and if anybody dares questionthe legitimacy of thisyou know they they kicked 12 people outthey kicked probably you know peoplethat could have been my high schoolclassmatesyeah you know we had a half a dozen kidsduring the military immediately theyweren’tofficers immediately after high schooland thethe military in control iswell first of all i want to i want tohave the caveat of this there have beena lot of people on my telegramand maybe some of even your viewers whosay you know garrett is is in hismid-20s garrett’s the young guy in theroomand that is obviously true that’s whyi’ve had every single publiccomment i’ve ever made about thepostmodern coupsay it is through the lens of somebodywho doesn’t have accessto i had the highest clearances but idon’t have access to every conversationthat the chief of staff and thepresident sharedso i’ve been very upfront about thathowever i’m also very resourceful and iwould argue a bit precociousand there has been nothing in my almostyou know two years of the white houseand especially in the lasteight weeks to suggest that mark millywill defy joe biden and follow theconstitutionrather than joe biden now that is goingto make a lot of people madbut what i just said was factuallycorrect the the election for donaldtrump was conducteduh and you know and we wrote all this inthe reportsdr navarro had us uh help him writethose threethree reports it’s called the navarrereport you can look it up atuh at his website navarroreport.com andit basically shows how it wasstrategically gained unconstitutionallyand i i love that you asked thisquestion becauseuh i very much respect the people thepeople whoquote unquote believe the military is incharge they could beyou know my family i don’t i don’tthere’s so many people that humiliatethe people that believe that and say howcould you possibly uh well maybe thosepeople thinkyou know that the the left and maybe theupper brass of the joint chiefs of staffcare about the constitutionyeah and the hard reality is that a lotof themdon’t yeah well i i gotta tell you i haduhwhen that letter came out from millieand the joint chiefs and and not all ofthem signed itbut a majority of them did i think therewere seven or so that signed ityou know my first reaction when i readit was this is just this is treasonwriting thislike these guys well and millie is fromthat ilk he’s from theprinceton officer class yeah you knowinvadeinvade the world invite the world rightandthey have a totally warped view it’slike ben sasse i talked about ben sasseon myon my telegram channel yesterday becausethere is a class of what i callyou know paid losers and useful idiotswho invoke the foundersin the constitution but they use thatjust like you know liberal christiansuse use a warped view of christianity toachieve their goalsso this is a fact ninety-five percent ofthe american founders love tariffsben sasse does not ben sass says he’s inline withwith the founders it’s a lie yeah youknowninety-five percent of the americanfounders would not think that being inafghanistan for two decades isinternational interestall the upper brass who they say youknow and they say themselves they lovethethe constitution of the founders wouldnot like that these are not policydifferences these go deeper than that itgoes to their intellectualyeah well 100 i mean if you go look atour military operations around the worldand then you look at uhsome of the actions taken by the formerstate departments anduh our military and things like that andyou just watch the flow of goodsand services that come out of thosecountries you can tell pretty quicklythatthere is money changing hands andsomebody iswe tried to go after that because of thebuy american act which our officeloves that american tax dollars shouldbuy american goodsyou would not believe the amount ofqualifying country waivers that the dodgives to all these second and thirdworld nations to buy their stuffyeah now i understand if we have a basein djibouti about like buying djiboutitoilet paperbut this not we’re talking tens ofbillions if i go back into my files siri and i can’t even give it to your toyour viewers we did anot a we did a report on this in a bigsection of it wasthe dod spends billions of your taxpayermoneyon uh foreign goodsand they should revoke those memos orthose those uhthose mou’s which is washington speakfor selling the country outand the last thing i’ll say about thethe the military isthis is an area that is is very scarywith biden because i’m not sure if yousaw the orderbut now if some members of the militaryput that little frog that pepe frogwhich is a jokei mean all of our all of our enemiesthink it’s some sinister thinguh the adl has a has a piece on it ifthey if the milit if certain you knowlower non-officer people are foundposting that it’s like a demeritlike you can’t serve now so you knowa left-wing military is is is going tobe very scary becausei think our future could be like the ukwhere you know uhi i it’s so bad i don’t even want toverbalize it yeahit’s not based on merit no no wellwithout a doubt and also when you startallowinguh gender identity issues coming intothe militaryit weakens our yeah our force i mean itreally does it’sdon’t get me wrong there are there arecertainly women who can uhare better sniper shots than a lot ofmen you knowbut um yep and uh there’s women outthere kick my butt right butbut at the end of the day it’s well justlikeit’s the bell curve right sir i meanyeah 85uh you know are going to be under thatbell curve and they use that one percentright so my mom my mom works right uhand my you know my mom is in that thatuh she’s an executive for a printingcompany you know she’s in thatthat right tail but if you make policiesfor the country based upon the outliersuh you’re not going to get good publicpolicyand we now you know we didn’t have freespeech beforein this country but now it’s not justthat you’re not gonna have free speechyou’re gonna be penalizedfor it so it’s not just you know likeit’s not justyou lose your job but you could actuallybe criminallyyou know liable yeah it’s not you knowhate crimes were invented in my opinioncrimes you know sins just weren’t enoughthey had to be hate crimesyeah but you know if i shoot a whiteperson and shoot a black personuh that’s a sin either way right but ithink hate crimesthat whole classification injurisprudence was just a way for now fortheir now to be hate speechyeah right and so now we’re gonna be weyou’ll seeyou’ll see in the house bills put up inthe next 24 monthsthat hate speech is now a criminaloffense oh yeah well 100 they’rethey’re definitely i’m already seeing uhbills that are being floated byuh jackson i think uh out of houston ithinkwas one of hers is uh basicallygathering uh the guns right i meanthey’re based they’re gathering all theinformation so if youyou buy a gun they’re putting you in adatabase if youuh have any kind of it at all it’s goingto go into the central database butanything you buy ammo it goes in adatabase you buy a gun it goes in adatabase you buyyou know uh body armor it goes in adatabase if you have adomestic dispute it’s it’s in a databaseyou know and if anybodyyour doctor or anybody deems you youknowcrazy or whatever it may be you knowthey’re going to look in that databaseand they’re going to come take your gunsand soit’s uh i know it’s a technologicaltyranny yeahexactly and so what they do is they justyou know they’ll put the squeeze on usand they’ll start gathering data oneverybody because how do you go afterguns you have to know who has the gunsright and souh and so now you start developing thesedatabases that’ll allow you to take thatnext step and thenyou put the squeeze on ammomanufacturers or people making primersyou know just different things you knowlittle areas here and there that all ofa suddenyou impact our ability to replenish youimpact our ability to buyyou you know it’s just 100 percent thatthat second amendment is going to beunder attackover these next four years and wellthat’s why i’m moving my family eventhough it’s to a liberal state it’s backto rural americai mean most american citiesthey’re the really big ones are hostileto libertyand we knew that before yeah but nowthey’re not only hostile to libertythey’re a literal ghost townbut they’ll still have the bureaucracyto pay for so they’ll squeeze andderacinatethis shrinking population um and soi would if your viewers aren’t alreadylooking at some landor a place beyond the craziness of theurban environment that is anti-humani think that that people are meant to toto know their neighborsyeah uh to have these bonds of trustthat are beingbeing broken and i just i can’t rememberthe exact quote so i’m not going to tryto go back to it but it’s actually bymika’s father you know that insufferabletelevision hostuh mika she’s a polish yeah msnbcyeah yeah she’s horrid but her fatherwas the national security advisor tojimmy carter and he had a lot to sayabout technocracyand i’m sure your viewers becausethey’re astute and are interested inmilitary affairsknow about this quote but some maybe notand i thinkwhat we’re what we’re going towards is asurveillance statethat then will have files on every everypersonyeah and so it’s a weird type of tyrannythat not every part of the world knowsbecause they don’t have theuh the technology to do it buthow do we how do we guard against that idon’t want to as my fellowgeneration z members would say sir idon’t want to just give black pills allthe time you know what what can we doin the immediate term and i know thiswasn’t a question but just real quickin the immediate term it’s to first ofall have the self-awareness to knowthat uh any you know any device canbasically be connected to the internetjust like the voting machines i meanthat’s a key part of the propagandathe voting machines are connected to theinternetthat is anything to the contrary is alieany jeff bezos product that you have inyour homehas the ability to be compromised andand listening to youand so in our each of our day each of ushas to takestock of how we live and see you knowcan i get bywithout that apple watch and youprobably canoh yeah and if you stick if you keepfeeding this beastand give up your liberty for just alittle bit more convenienceuh you’re gonna find yourself in chinayeah without maybe you know the pollutedriverswithout even moving your house man yeahwithout a doubt well you know what’sit’sfunny you say that because when i and iyou know i’ve mentioned that uh that iworked forlockheed martin for almost 18 years andi was getting read on to a program and iuh when i when i wasover on f35 i didn’t know who darpa wasright but when i got over tomissile and fire control i you know oneof the first programs they were readingme on to was the darpa program andi uh i was like well i need to figureout who the heck darpa is so i startedresearching them and i’m like well theycreated life log and twitter and 23andmeand which is dna um ancestry.cominstagram linkedin umyoutube they’re google they’re a centernode yeah and soepstein did some work with him yesabsolutely and so as istarted looking at their data collectioni’m like this is mass surveillance andwhen did we give up that freedom 911 waswhenwhen we just said oh my god if peopleare trying to kill uslet’s you can if you need to go look inmy closet knock yourself out right andsoso that was when and before we actuallyhad all thisthis technology that just advancescontinuouslyuh very rapidly now right and so and soi as i looked at that i thought man youknow anything that is smarthas got the ability to track you rightit’s allevery technology that is out there nowhas i’ve got it all around me you knowi’ve got from theearbuds to the tvs to the cameras to theipads to the iphoneit’s all of the stuff that isall connected to a satellite you know ora tower then to a satellite and they’rejustdoing data collections and they havethese giant centers that are doingnothing but collecting data on every oneof us and soand the nsa has national securityagreements with basically every singletechnology company yesthat’s it you know it’s public intelyeah yeah absolutely and soso now if you think oh well you know idon’t like this i don’t like the i don’tlike the way this looks you know it’stry to back out of that now is they’vethey’ve got so many peoplehooked uh because it it feedsthe same stimulators as crack cocaineand sugar and all the other stuff thatour bodyour minds need right and so you knowpeople when you wake up in the morningwhat’s the first thing you grab is yourphone right well what did i miss while iwasin coffee and coffee yeah exactly and soit’s uh it’s crazy and so when you startlooking at some of theuh the things that so that’s a dod darparight and so they developed all this andthen what they did wasthey spun it off to these publicpublicly held companies uh and ipos andthey put these figure heads in placelike super zukerbergand and and crew right and jack dorseyright and so they that’s obviousyeah i mean zuckerberg i call theselizard people yeahyeah it’s they’re lizards yeah straightup and and it’s just crazy because theytheythey put these people in charge of thisand now they are this the speakingvoice but they’re really representingthe dod at the end of the day you knowthat’s their true shareholderand the dod is data mining all of iteverything from amazon so they knoweverything that we’re doing and so uh tounplug from that it’s gonna be verydifficult right and sowell yeah and now they’re not evenhiding it they’re they’rethey’re public you know amazon isbuilding their second hqnot even a mile from the pentagon amazonjust won a huge contract or wasin i think litigation over a hugecontract with the dod eric schmidtof google was on the dod businessadvisory board i meanif somebody wants to go tographcommons.com which is one of myfavorite tools or they can do thisafter they watch this there’s got to besome connection nodesbetween the upper brass of our dod intelcommunitythat are already completed theconnection nodes and silicon valley imean silicon valley wasa you know a result of the air forceinvestmentsin the bay area so starting withfairchild semiconductorand why are we going into this sir it’sbecauseuh for them to accomplish the goals ofleftismsurveillance is so critical because likemichelle holobeck’s 2015 book he’s afrenchmanwho i enjoy you know they wantsubmissionif if uh if a critical mass of peopledon’t accept thisthey’re going to try to submit that’swhy to make you submit that’s why theyhate homeschooling and these othermovementsthat are so anti-culture so anti-leftistbecause they can’t control them yeah 100100 percent the so let me ask you whatare your thoughts onall of the the military that is aroundin and around dci think it’s absolutely bizarre thepeople at the white housewere not uh informed of anything all wegot was a daily email from themanagement officetelling me where i can enter the whitehouse ellipse to parkum there’s been very very littlecommunicationi feel that dc is basically an occupiedzone nowif you’re there which i was in the whitehouse for the entirety of the events onthe sixthyou feel that we don’t have a civiliancontrolled militarybecause the military is not explainingto the civilians what they are doingthereuh i’m for secrecy when it comes tokilling peopleby delta force i don’t want delta forceto have a spokesmani want delta force to secretly killpeople in the middle of the night andnot tell anybody about itbut if you are going to send our sons inthe national guard from eat from all the50 statesi would have wished that the militarydid a much better job sayingwhy they’re there and not just leakingto nbc and abcthat there are 12 people that are youknow in the ranks that we haven’t vettedand that we you know we don’t trust themnot to shoot thepresumptive you know president yeahthere’s been very little communicationand the bidens want it that way yeah forsure and so you think umuh at the end of the day here so sopotusand i say potus because i’m talkingabout trump uh clearlyum so he he is ex-filled right he’s gonedown to floridaand you know i don’t know i was i was inflorida for a couple of weeksyeah were you down there with him no iwas not staying at mar-a-lago he hasabout a half a dozen staff that areactually still being paid by the generalservices administration and politico dida little piece on themi’m not really close with any of thenick luna wasvery kind to me he’s one of the peopledown there but most of the peopleuh that he is with i did not reallycommunicate withduring my tenure nor did i seek outcommunication with themi have a lot different views as they doprobably politicallyum but he is down there umyou know he’s he’s he’s right there onon the beachuh you know we have been trying to getum intel to him uh you know he hedefinitely asks on the 18th for myand my colleagues brennan and joannayou know our home address our personalphone number so he can keep in touchwith usuh but he keep it he rightly should hehe calls myformer boss a lot a lot more obviouslyyeah than any of the lower level staffso but then again it feels uhit feels kind of good to be able tospeak the truthso many people are mad at me because thethings i put in my telegramyou know why didn’t you speak up beforebecausefirst of all it wasn’t aboutself-preservation i couldn’t care lessif mark meadowsfired me you know on december 25th hecould have done it on christmas day andi wouldn’t have caredbut there i was still holding out hopethat some of the advice thatmy boss was giving him that we needed todo somethingyou know about this would actually getdonethat he would so he would quote unquotecross the rubiconi always like historical illusionsbecause i think they clarify thingsbut he didn’t do that and so that’s whyi wasn’t you know having a publictelegram channelbroadcasting whatever uh went on in thewhite housebecause i think that you know and theonly reason why patrick burn you know ii waved in general flynn in sydneypowellon the on the 18th on the friday nightof the 18thfor which mark meadows office revoked myguest privileges i could no longer getpeople into the complex after thatand the reason why i did that is becausei was just sofrustrated with the current council hewas getting that all of his lawyersaround him were no menand you know they didn’t really want himto to to win they truly some of thesepeoplewith sip alone and hershman they trulydon’t believe that the election wasstolensome circuit court said that they don’thave standing well then you knowwe just got to listen to him yeah it’struly absurdso these rumors about sydney powell nothaving access to the president that theywere keeping her away from himthat sounds like that was absolutelytrue wowyeah i know and to the best of myknowledge if if there’s a rumor i willanswer it i talked toto ron codemonkey z who’s a patriot bythe way yeah and he’s safe right nowbut uh they’ll be targeting ron uhbecause he’s he’s toohe’s too powerful you know he’d ask meyou know i’m gonna or he’d tell me youknow i’m gonna keep you aware of therument as i call it r-u-m-i-n-tbecause it’s very telling rumen is verytelling about what the base is feelingum and i always say it’s the 80 20 ruleyou know 20of the rumors are true 80 or false butthat is an absolute factsydney i walked sydney over to theresidence one night to try to get thepresident a binder full of evidenceand uh you know we got blocked againthere toowow now you you and i were talking andyou said you had uh you broughtactually brought flynn in uh before alot of this stuff went down and hit thathe actually got an opportunity to meetwith potus rightyeah so the night of the 18th on fridayum i used my what was called wavesaccess which is likeum worker and visitor entry system iswhat the secret service calls itto get him sidney powell uhan attorney for sydney and and patrickinto the into theum oval because they werethey were basically doing the occam’srazor approachgo to the six problematic counties andjust simply recount the ballotsand this sounds probably unbelievable tosome of your viewersthat this was not done but we still havenot had a legitimate auditand you know the audit that’s going onright now in arizona sirthe p the eac the election assistancecommissionthey the audit they’re doing uhwell basically the eac certifiesauditorsbut the certifications for the auditorare expiredso the board of elections was served assubpoena by the arizona senatethe board of elections picked a eaccertified auditorbut that auditor doesn’t even have avalid certification it’s like if you getpulled over by the cop and your licenseis expired and you try to tell them wellyou know officeri you know my license was valid likethree months agobut a buddy of mine named mike o’fallonhe runs a group called sovereign nationshe put it this way and i’m giving himcredit because i think it’s a brilliantidea or a brilliantencapsulation we’re nowliving in a country where there aretruly two conceptions of justicethe enemy looks at justice asoperational successright what does that mean that meansthat even if we have the evidencelet’s say we go and by by definitionlet’s say the associated press calls uhmilwaukee countyyou know 200 000 to 175. by definitionbecause there are paper ballots weshould be able to locateeach one of the 200 ballots formilwaukee countylet’s say that it’s not that that thatthat donald trump won milwaukee countyby32 000 votes even if we literally showedthe leftour stack is bigger than theirs theythey would not accept it because theresult of thatis not operational success to them rightso operational success is theonly arbiter by which they they viewsomethingnow that’s probably abstract to a couplepeople watching this showbut it all goes back you know alldifferences are ultimately theologicalonesand you know they’re in the business ofcalling two plus two equals fivebecause if five is their operationalsuccess that’s whyyou know if they’re if they’re tell usto use a greek wordis complete freedom of the individualwith no in you know with no guard railsthen men truly can be women nowto us who have a a differentanthropology and were raisedin reality that is absurd so they’resaying trust the sciencewhich in the same vein they areignoring the science of chromosomesyeah and they don’t realize that youknow science was reallya christian enterprise by fellow germansuhjohannes kepler and everything and thereason why i’m going into thisis because so many people who arepatriotswho voted for donald trump say how canthis standyou know we’ve even seen all the sinsyeahand the other side will not evenacknowledgethat they they won’t even trust theireyes because they don’t believe thatjustice iswhat we think justice is right you knowwithout a doubt there’s definitelya two-tiered system of justice maybemore than that but umyes it’s post-modern yeah yeah soso let me ask you from a trumpperspective uh how did he seem did yousee him the daythat he left the white house no i sawhim on the 18th that was the last timelast time i saw him was probably 1 30 onthe at the 18th heuh when i saw the president it was hewas trying tohe he knew that he was unjustly put in acornerby the left in the media and the goonsat the polling stations and everythingbut every way out of that corner wasblockedfor bs reasons yeah and that was myhonest interpretationnow somebody who had more access to himsomebody who saw him every dayuh they might have a different take butithat’s what that’s what the truth isbecause ifif you if you were with him every daywhy wouldn’tyou advise him to do this simple thinglike 42 usc 1974.the last thing i’ll say about uh youknow how he felt isyou know some of this does fall on hisshouldersbecause he is the president and at theend of the daythe in truman words the buck stops withtrump and hei don’t think he he ignored the stafflike you should have had like he shouldhave ignored well you know i mean heshows the pedigree of a trueleader you know at the end of the daywhere he listens to hispeople he he gives them you know stickand rudder and some guidance but i thinki thinklike like most uh good men uh you tendto trustpeople and uh and and just assume thatthey’re gonna do the right thing youknow andyeah that they share your vision yes andin corporate america he could do thatyou know he truly won theonly guy andy didn’t serve in politicaloffice but he was a generalbesides andrew jackson you know he isthe only oneto have not served in political officeand he’s the only one not to serve inthe military office so i think thatthey were it was a world in one way heknew politics better than all thepoliticiansbut maybe he didn’t understand theimportance of staffing and so whenreince took overand we had these horrible chiefs ofstaff all four of them were badyeah and it was actually it was um it’sa it’s a sad thingand i i i don’t know i think if we coulddo those four years over again we’dprobably have a different outcome to behonest with you but ii i really you know soso the takeaway from what i gather isthere there is the military is not incharge there is nouh you know secondary mission that’sgoing to take place that’s every youknow they’re going to lock up everybodyin the white house and biden is going togo to jail andeven though he committed you know ummany many many crimes it was a logan actright even the logan act forfor his previous stuff he should havebeen convicted forum and these people are all made up johnkerry yeahyeah exactly same thing and so yeah andso it looks to me like we’rewe’re just in speaking with you and andmy observations is that we’re in for ahell of a hell of a four yearsuh i i don’t see any any other otherplan going onother than there’s going to belitigation about the impeachment there’sgoing to be litigation about the obviouspost-modern coup we just went throughand we’ll see what happensbut right now um yeah it’s the office ofthe former presidentthat is a terrible reality it was youknow it was it’s illegalbut i did all that i couldyeah well you you walk away with a cleanconscience knowing that quick questionis what’swhat’s next for you what are you gonnado i’m becoming a dad my boy is beingborn in mayand uh i’m gonna you know i’m a germanso i savedthe little salary i had at the whitehouse so i can i can take sixweeks and i’m very frugal guy and figureout what i want to doi’m very interested in public corruptionuh i mean i know the federal governmentwell i spent a tremendous amount of timeon things that other people would findso boringlike all the entities that are in thedepartment of transportationlike if you just look at the departmentof transportation from the outside it’sthe mostunsexy thing in the world but you lookat the faaall they have so much power and that’sone of the tragedies i think of trumpterm oneis that the immense power that theexecutive had sirwas not completely utilized and we couldhave taken thesevery old institutions and made themgreat again and i hope that if he doesget in office againthat he will consider making me hisdeputy chief of stafffor personnel because i have listsand structures ready to go memos writtenon what we should do with all thesebureaucracies and that’s really apassion of minei’m i’m a klaus fitz type of guy andvarian is just an organizationalstructure i think it’s part of my germanheritageand i think the executive branch of theunited states governmentis unsalvageable in its current state umwellall right man so i know that we covereda lot but we did i i hopei hope that uh they found this of valuei think they willand um i i really appreciate you takingthe time to uhto to you know to have this discussionand and like i saidit’s it’s not going to be pleasing tothe ear on everyone butum you know there’s there’s a lot oflove behind it a lot of truth behind itand if there issir my final thing if there is a planthat is being worked out in front of usi think thatat least 70 million people have nowfigured out that our institutions arecapturedso we can either sit on our ass on ourhandsand complain about that or we canactuallystudy and have a formidable politicalaction and i think that formidablepolitical action should focusfirst on our individual secretaries ofstate in their voting systemsyeah and um because if we get thatwe have the numbers we are the majoritywe’re being ruled by aa hated minority of people sothat’s the hope that’s the white pill isthat we havethe power to change our institutionsyou know if if your viewers want to keepin touch with me ii i’m on telegram at garrett michael zand i think that i i definitely want tocome on again and i appreciateeverything you’re doing i appreciateyour time sir god bless yeah noabsolutelyall right well hey thank you all forjoining us i’m gonna actually askgarrett to come backand do another episode with us so thatwe can ask some additional questionsand that’s it god blessmonkey outyou
